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The officer was alone for a time when he arrived on scene. For his own safety he had to consider and (if possible, eliminate) the possibility that there was some other person or persons in the house that Gates may not have been aware of, and hence, for both the officer's safety and that of Prof. Gates, it makes sense to me for the officer to have attempted to get Prof. Gates out of the house while the police investigated.

I also doubt that Prof. Gates would have listened to or believed this explanation at the time.

The police investigation would have taken a matter of a few minutes had Prof. Gates chosen to cooperate with the police.

[ Thanks to Chris for pointing out my misspelling of the sergeant's name, which has now been fixed in the post. His point about the possibility of a hidden second suspect is a good one since the woman who called 911 did report two people at the door. HMD]


Great point. I completely agree with you. If both men just step back and think objectively-instead of personally, I believe they can find common ground. It's a shame that Cromley didn't humble himself a bit after Gates showed his ID. Even if he was offended by Gates behavior, humbling himself would have stopped this whole situation from going beyond public nuisance into the realm of a national spectacle.

[ Inside the home it was not a public nuisance. The officer could have checked the I.D. inside the home and then let Gates go. If he felt there was danger he could have handcuffed him and then done this, with one eye on the rest of the house as he did so, just as he may have kept one eye on the rest of the house while taking Gates out of it. Am I wrong about this? HMD]

Gosh, racial relations in this country just go back and forth don't they? Seems like only yesterday Jesse Jackson was accusing Obama of being uppity, and only the day before that Al Sharpton was stuffing that girl in the trash can and blaming NYPD for it. This whole Gates thing is just plain stupid. Oh, did somebody already say that?

William Pitt,1763, the father of our 4th amendment.

"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the crown. It may be frail - its roof may shake - the wind may blow through it - the storm may enter - the rain may enter - but the King of England cannot enter."

you enter my house, it is with respect, capisce?

Howard,

One extremely important detail left out was the ID. And since you correctly state the ID issue is key to this matter, I would think journalists would have researched more.

The question: Gates says he gave his Harvard ID and State DL. Did the ID that Mr. Gates provide have the address of the house on it? Some reports have stated he was renting the house. It's possible the address on the ID did not match the house.

It's a small, yet important point.

If his safety was such a concern, why was he the only one there? A traffic stop tends to get three or four units as backup, going in a big house by one's self doesn't seem to be the "safe" way to go about it.

I also wonder if the officer made a comment about it being such a nice house for Gates to own...

[ On the mainland, multiple units responding to every call would be unusual. That's more of a Waikiki thing. HMD]

Perhaps the sergeant had such a plan in mind once backup arrived, j.k., but it doesn't sound to me like Prof. Gates was calm at any point in this incident...

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[ Inside the home it was not a public nuisance. The officer could have checked the I.D. inside the home and then let Gates go. If he felt there was danger he could have handcuffed him and then done this, with one eye on the rest of the house as he did so, just as he may have kept one eye on the rest of the house while taking Gates out of it. Am I wrong about this? HMD]

No, I don't think your wrong about it. The officer could have checked the ID inside the home. If safety was a concern, I don't see why he couldn't handcuff him, as part of protocol, then ID him. As Chris pointed out, with safety in mind for both the officer and the suspect in question, the matter could have been settled outside the home by making a couple of reference calls. I don't see how it would be public nuisance if both men remained calm. If the officer remained calm, explained the situation, and asked Gates to step away from the house while he can properly identify that 1) Gates is who he says he is and 2) Tells Gates if he is who he says he is, he needs to make sure there wasn't a robbery actually taking place, the situation may have gone a bit differently. Emotions got the best of this situation, if I'm understanding it correctly.

Agreed. Both men let emotions play into the situation.

If I saw a yellow cab parked in front of my neighbor's house, I wouldn't call 911 without mentioning it. Would you? Or does Boston have unmarked cabs?

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